CRACK THAT WHIP: Lib Senator Ryan accused of betrayal plot

scottryanVictorian Liberal Senator Scott Ryan is being closely watched ahead of next week’s Senate ballot for the Liberal Whip’s position. Controversial Tasmanian Liberal Senator David Bushby is being challenged by Victoria’s Helen Kroger for the position.

Ryan, while in the same state  faction as Kroger, is thought by friends to have pledged his vote to the Tasmanian.

His reasons for doing so are believed to relate to the forthcoming preselection stoush which will determine whether he is in the “death-seat” of #3 on the Coalition ticket or whether Senator Kroger will be demoted to this unfortunate position where she could be picked off by conservative randoms such as the revived Democratic Labor Party, Family First or perhaps even the ever-popular Bob Katter’s Australia Party which appears to have received substantial financial backing, including from the Victorian branch of the ETU, headed by Dean Mighell.

With the Coalition vote surging as it is, #3 might not be such a problem next time, but it is still considered a risk.

Ryan’s backers, regular leakers and briefers against Kroger, say that as a shadow parliamentary secretary Ryan trumps back-bencher Kroger and that he would continue to do so even if she was elected Whip.

However, Kroger’s chums are convinced that Ryan is talking out the wrong side of his mouth, telling local party patriots that he’s backing Helen while pledging his vote to Bushby and Eric Abetz in the dark shadows of parliamentary corridors.

They also say that Ryan is being too clever by half, also plotting to effectively run on a Ted Baillieu-backed ticket to shore up his bid for #2 on the Senate ticket. By appealing to everyone in Victoria from right to left and playing sneaky games with interstate colleagues, Ryan’s foes say he might end up with no-one’s support at all.

The Senate Liberals are not so many in number that there are many – if any – stray votes on rare contentious matters. Indeed, in the era of Count von Minchin – the retiring numbers-man extraordinaire – every vote was accounted for, sometimes with Minchin knowing who people were voting for before they did.

Ryan’s apparently devious plan to pretend to vote for Kroger while actually voting for David Bushby has not been a well-kept secret though with many from Ryan’s own group being aware of his intentions and planning to hold him to account for it if he transgresses state and factional loyalties.

Some wonder whether he will follow the federal party leader Tony Abbott’s example of a CFMEU-style “show-and-tell” ballot to allay fears and paranoias that can arise in these vexing times.

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39 responses to “CRACK THAT WHIP: Lib Senator Ryan accused of betrayal plot

  1. inga binga

    i will always help you men in distress

  2. Spring Street

    Ryan is a serial rat. For example, his disgraceful split on the ticket last year over Scott Pearce nearly cost the faction the second spot, and did cost Pearce a seat and the respect of the rest if Admin.

  3. Peter Tighe

    Who’s that short fat ugly old bloke to the left of Katter???

  4. Alan Dungey

    Scott Ryan has never found an ally that he hasn’t ratted on.

  5. bravo

    if there was a conspiracy, it has no life in it now! this story has ‘paranoia’ stamped all over it!

  6. Gobbler

    Senator X is a Jeffista from way back. As I like to remind people, he worked for Jeff as an adviser when he was Premier.

    Gobble, gobble.

  7. Gobbler

    Senator X is a Jeffista from way back. As I like to remind people, he worked for Jeff as an adviser when he was Premier.

    Gobble, gobble.

  8. Whistle-blower

    Piltdown Man Sen Abetz would make an ideal Liberal Whip. His Uncle was a Nazi tried for War crimes after WW2.

    Where do we get these people from?

  9. Collins Street

    Senator Ryan is, politically speaking, a two trick pony.

    Trick 1: “Poor me I am stuck in the middle” is his main tactic, to avoid making and decision politically which could harm his own interests.

    Trick 2: After doing nothing because he is “stuck in the middle” he finally sides with his tradiitonal enemies against his friends, because his enemies usually offer him a bigger prize for ratting.

  10. Humble Number

    Senator Fifield has played this preselection masterfully.

    However, it is apparent that it is time for Fifield to cut Ryan loose and let the numbers fall where they may.

    Victorian preselection delegates will never forgive ryan for ratting on Senator Kroger for a sexist pig purely out of self interest.

  11. Byron in Wahroonga

    ***Piltdown Man Sen Abetz would make an ideal Liberal Whip. His Uncle was a Nazi***

    Nice smear.

    Who was your uncle, Julius Streicher?

  12. Dryasachip

    That photo of Ryan is out of date. He has added a few more double chins since it was taken. If ever there was a person who did nothing before they entered the parliament and has done nothing whilst there, it is the good Senator Ryan. Whatever Kroger’s motives were for coming out before the state election and saying Libs should not preference Greens, on that action alone she deserves a higher spot on ticket than Ryan.

  13. Bernie R.

    Peter Tighe= Its the She=Mighell mate. He makes Gray look like a greek god standing next to him

  14. arden street insider

    katter was part of the bjelke peterson government that sacked qld electricity workers. what irony that migHELL and his yesman gray support him. it shows that migHELL will give ETU members money to anyone who is nice to him and will help him get some publicity. most other politicians cant stay far enough away from the corrupt liar. if gray swallows any more of migHEILs DNA he will start looking like him. he already sounds like him.he looks like he is getting a few of migHEILs chins

  15. bevan by name...

    Scott Ryan’s extraordinary lack of judgement is evidenced by his ham-fisted backing of Daniel Bevan.

    In the end, Bevan was number one on both faction’s tickets, and still got smashed in the vote because ordinary party members are sick of his contempt.

    The way he sucked up to Frank Greenstein, but then bagged Frank out behind his back to the Liberal Students was just contemptable.

    Sadly, Scott probably does not see Bevan’s poor behaviour, because Bevan is so good at managing up (and so bad at managing down)…

  16. Melbourne Ports

    Senator Ryan’s most disgraceful act was siding with Albert Dadon’s Labor front group the Australia-Israel Leadership Forum against Colin Rubenstein’s AIJAC.

    After years of AIJAC working with Ryan, it turns out the Senator’s price for ratting was one free holiday with his wife.

    It should come as no surprise that Ryan’s price for voting for the cat-calling Bushby is so low.

    Extraordinary to think though, that after treating Colin that way that he thinks he wold be welcome as Patron Senator of Melbourne Ports…

  17. Treasury Place

    Amusing that Ryan now sides with Tony Smith and Mitch Fifield, who along with Peter Costello, bagged Ryan out for a decade and did everything in their power to stop him getting preselection.

    Compare that to Helen Kroger who backed Ryan’s preselection to the hilt…

    In the end, the least loyal you are, the more likely it is that Scott Ryan will support you.

  18. Medici

    “it shows that migHELL will give ETU members money to anyone who is nice to him”

    LMAO really, I don’t think so! He didn’t give it to the ALP and that’s what this attack is all about. Stopped you hacks from giving workers money to a government that ‘lost its way’ a couple of decades ago. The only people remaining in (or supporting) the ALP are those who are still sucking on the fast collapsing vein that is preselections, board positions, cushy union jobs for people who have never done a real days work in their lives and they won’t if they can continue to avoid it. The ALP is dead, just the stinking carcas to deal with.

  19. Giuseppe De Simone

    Mmmmmm.I am not a member of State Assembly and have no say in the Senate preselection. Therefore, I have nothing to say.

    Except this:

    Danger Danger Danger. For the first time since the 1940’s the left in Australian politics will control both Houses of Parliament. Going back to 1949, the balance of power or control in at least one house of parliament has been held by the DLP, real independents or Australian Democrats or the Liberal/National Coalition. The Gillard-Greens Coalition is now in power. Time to be afraid, to be very afraid.

  20. Giuseppe De Simone

    Mmmmmm. I am not a member of State Assembly and have no say in the Senate preselection. Therefore, I have nothing to say.

    Except this:

    Danger Danger Danger. For the first time since the 1940’s the left in Australian politics will control both Houses of Parliament. Going back to 1949, the balance of power or control in at least one house of parliament has been held by the DLP, real independents or Australian Democrats or the Liberal/National Coalition. The Gillard-Greens Coalition is now in power. Time to be afraid, to be very afraid.

  21. Loyalist

    In case it has escaped everybody, this much vaunted Shadow Parliamentary Secretary spot is for “Small Business and Fair Competition”

    Australia is currently having a massive debate on this issue, but Ryan is nowhere. No website, no press releases, no twitter, no media appearances, nothing.

    Peak bodies representing hundreds of thousands of small businesses are making submissions, but where is this so-called shadow parliamentary secretary?

    Tony Smith also had a portfolio – and arguably Tony Smith did more work than Scott Ryan. Well, it won’t save Tony Smith’s portfolio or his preselection, and it should not save Scott Ryan’s.

    Take a look at the debate that Scott Ryan is not engaged in:
    http://www.pc.gov.au/projects/inquiry/retail-industry
    http://www.fairimportsalliance.org.au

  22. Liberal Student

    Loyalist – you are wrong. Senator Scott Ryan DOES have a twitter account. It is: http://twitter.com/W_T_Sherman/

    Unfortunately he has never made a tweet, but he does secretly follow 254 party members so that he can leak any tweets he does not like to journalists.

  23. The Truth

    On the evening of Friday 8 April last, Senator Scott Ryan engaged in a brutal political waterboarding of two senior Liberal students who dared question the choice of Daniel Bevan on the Admin ticket.

    His brutal and disgusting behaviour to these two show that he is actually out of control and lashing out. He would be well advised to stop lashing out in these stupid games and do some work.

  24. Lib watcher

    Helen roger is without ability and has hurt the kroger Costello faction’s credibility.

    As state pres, she was puppet to that dreadful shheezal.

    At least Ryan has a brain and a degree. Kroger could,t even finish hers

  25. Fatty McPerton

    My Dearest Fatty McRyan

    I don’t understand.

    Your maiden speech thanked Helen Kroger for her support and did not mention Mitch Fifield. who was bitterly opposed to your preselection.

    Five minutes later you have changed sides and are backing a lowlife sexist non-Victorian so as to hurt a Victorian colleague who has always supported you?

    That can’t be right. Please clear this up before we go for lunch.

    Fatty

  26. Shambles

    I am a respected political strategist.

    I know all there is to know about the fine art of ratting.

    Just ask Mr Clark, or Mr Towke, or Mr Miles, or Mr Selig, or Mr Webster, or Ms Vanzella.

    I could go on.

  27. Flip Flop

    Ryan’s main justification is that he is more honour-bound to the National Right than the Victorian Right and that the National Right has chosen Bushby as their candidate.

    Of course this misses several key facts:
    – Ryan supported Joe Hockey for leader
    – Until recently, Ryan ran the line on anthropomorphic global warming that “the world deserves the benefit of the doubt” and that therefore there should be a carbon tax

    Ryan’s unprincipled backflips on these demonstrate what kind of politician we have here. Now one that anybody would expect loyalty from.

  28. arden street insider

    medici, how is giving victorian union members money to a queensland politician value for victorian workers? the queensland ETU dont think very highly of katter- once again; he was part of a government that sacked ETU members! migHEIL is only interested in his own profile ( as fat as it is), vic ETU members would think that Katter is just a conservative dud. oh and he sided with the conservatives at the last election. the same mob who supported taking on the MUA. they also had a royal commision into the CFMEU- no charges laid against any union member- just bought in the ABCC. so tell me migHEIL IS NOT IN IT FOR HIMSELF.

  29. Joe useless

    arden street insider-medici is Phil Cleary

  30. arden street insider

    is that the same phil cleary who is a serial candidate in elections and sooked when the ALP didnt preference him? is he the deen migHEIL apologist? is he the same phil cleary who is employed at the ETU to get migHEIL publicity? he and Katter are probably best buddies.

  31. Medici

    ” oh and he sided with the conservatives at the last election. the same mob who supported taking on the MUA. they also had a royal commision into the CFMEU- no charges laid against any union member- just bought in the ABCC.”

    Oh and he (Katter) along with other independents consistently voted against Workchoices. As for the Queensland ETU, sided with the conseravtive ALP governement, allegedly continued to make donations after Simmo and Traill were expelled from ‘their party’. Queensland ETU desperate to be re admitted even though the conservative ALP government has cost and will cost thousands of jobs, weakening the union through privatisations and resultant job losses. ALP side with the conservatives and refuse to release documents about the ‘Reith Waterfront Conspiracy’ and the attempt to crush the MUA. ALP sides with conservatives and their mining industry bosses, lean on the MUA to call off industrial action because ‘it will further damage the government.’ Workers pay for government as usual. ALP sided with the conservatives and kept the ABCC in place. Keep em comin’ ‘arden street insider’ you and your arguments are fast sinking in quicksand, just like the conservative ALP government. You look a little like Monty Pythons Black Knight.

  32. Joe useless

    Yes the same Phil Cleary that trades on being a anti domestic violence warrior and at the same time authors gushing stories in the union mag about what a hero a particular etu official is even though he is a known serial wife basher

  33. Fair go

    Brave brave Joe, get the story right. On August 26, 1987, a violent sociopath called Peter Keogh, who had been living with Phil Cleary’s sister, Vicki, stabbed and killed her.

    Keogh was charged with Vicki Cleary’s murder, but was convicted only of manslaughter having relied upon the then defence of provocation.

    Phil Cleary became an active and successful campaigner for the modification of the “provocation defence” which has since been abolished in Victoria.

  34. Evil Bastard

    Well well well. The only thing worse than being a rat is being a losing rat.

    Helen Kroger still won without the support of Fifield or Ryan! How bad is that going to look come preselection time?

  35. Spring Street

    Yes – it seems that John Howard’s public endorsement of Senator Kroger’s position on preferencing the Greens swung a bunch of conservative NSW and Qld votes behind her… Would not like to be Scott Ryan tonight…

  36. Joe useless

    Brave breave fair go- how does that make the gushing stories in the union mag about what a hero a particular etu official is even though he is a known serial wife basher. OK?

  37. anon

    Scott Ryan is even lazier than his one-time mentor Tony Smith.

  38. Jonny

    Ryan and his boy wonder Beven. Fifield and new mate meow man Bushby. What a bunch of champions.

  39. Rightwinger

    ‘Flip flop’ – I know for a fact that Ryan voted for Abbott for leader, and was man enough to tell both Turnbull and Hockey beforehand that he was going to. I wonder what agenda you’re running by claiming anything else.

    Shame Kroger is too talentless to hold her preselection without stooping to having her acolytes run baseless smear campaigns on vexnews.

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