JOBS AT RISK: Builders worry about Greens victory party hangover

bobbrownghosttown mbaad The Greens party have taken hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of donations from construction unions like the CFMEU in return for promising the end of the Australian Building and Construction Commission.

Those unions hate the ABCC which has coercive questioning powers that are normally reserved for tackling organised crime rather than tackling industrial disputes.

So while construction unions are doling out the dosh to the Greens party, they have turned a blind eye to the rest of their policies which would undermine the jobs of their members and push the construction industry off a cliff.

Today, the Master Builders Association of Victoria has launched an ad blitz to draw attention to Greens party policies that will attack jobs in their industry.

In a nutshell, their case for why a vote for the Greens is a vote to weaken the economy and the jobs it produces:

â–  The Greens will push the price of new homes higher by restricting the release of new land and undermine jobs;

â–  The Greens will scrap the Australian Building & Construction Commission which could unleash the most militant forces on construction sites, causing lengthy wildcat strikes, undermining confidence, investment and jobs;

â–  The Greens party is opposed to vital new community infrastructure like much-needed new roads infrastructure on ideological grounds which will cause traffic bottle-necks and much reduced productivity; and

■ More generally, the Greens party’s policies of big taxes, free spending, hyper regulation and a contempt for industry will undermine growth and jobs for all of us and future generations.

So that’s the builders’ message. And few could credibly dispute it.

It’s refreshing to see an employer group that’s stepped up and risked incurring the wrath of the notoriously vengeful Greens party hierarchy and their mates at media outlets like The Age by calling the Greens party out on the policies they list on their own website. Unlike the major parties, both frequently criticised for policies they don’t have but might introduce, the Greens party are not really subjected to very thorough scrutiny at all and it’s about time they were.

The Greens party will most probably have a veto power over all legislation in the next Parliament, regardless of whether it’s Gillard or Abbott elected as Prime Minister. This will be the first time since the Communist Party controlled many of Australia’s most powerful trade unions in the 1940s that the extreme-left will be in a position to exercise such power over Australia.

They are also the favourite in the federal seat of Melbourne despite running a lacklustre campaign where Greens insiders say that the candidate Adam Bandt and his ultra-leftist henchman bovver-boy Damien Lawson are causing much irritation with the rest of the Greens party hierarchy through their constant and unreasonable demands for resources and attention at the expense of other seats. “Our main priority has to be the Senate campaign, Adam Bandt is just one of many lower house candidates, although of course he is first among equals, we have to support everyone and enthusiastic candidates don’t always see that. We just hope Adam wins because the hissy fit afterwards would probably give off more energy than the Sun,” one candid source familiar with Greens party internal feuding told VEXNEWS.

UPDATE:

Some eagle eyes with perhaps an excessive amount of familiarity with scenes of vanquished parts of France, identified the above ghost town image (try google images for it under ‘ghost town’) which the VEXNEWS Photoshop Unit artfully put behind a pic of the cackling Greens party leader Bob Brown to accurately portray his opposition to development. It was not their intention to equate Bob Brown with either French surrender monkeys nor with their occasional invaders and to suggest this doesn’t so much border on the absurd as much as represent a full-scale invasion of Absurd Nation. But we salute the enthusiasm and dilgence of the VEXNEWS audience in identifying such things. We love youse all. To those who thought we were being a bit harsh with Bob Brown, we’ve come up with a new and improved image that makes it clear what we mean: the Greens party crafts its policies to suit its donors, making him rather much more corrupt than any party leader currently running around.

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  2. Joe Public

    Apparently the Master Builders are running their ads in the Herald Sun, Geelong Advertiser and a range of local newspapers in Melbourne, Deakin, Corangamite and La Trobe…

  3. Rampant

    Hear hear, Andrew….

  4. Eyeon

    Andrew, Is that a picture (behind Brown) of the French village of Oradour-sur-glane, where members of the Das Reich division killed hundreds of French civilans, and which has been left as a silent memorial to the victims??

  5. masters of zilch

    Master builders are masters of zilch….

    they cannot even stop their beloved liberals from preferencing the green’s the federal seat of Melbourne…

    it will be justice if a minority labor govt in a hung parliament has to trash the ABCC to get a green senate and a green lower house mp to give them the OK to govern..

  6. masters of zero

    CLAIM
    â–  The Greens will push the price of new homes higher by restricting the release of new land and undermine jobs;

    REALITY:
    State Libs and Labor combined in Vic Parliaments to release 143,000 new lots in outer Melbourne – enough to address backlog for new housing blocks in three states!!!!

    CLAIM:
    â–  The Greens will scrap the Australian Building & Construction Commission which could unleash the most militant forces on construction sites, causing lengthy wildcat strikes, undermining confidence, investment and jobs;

    REALITY:
    Can only happen if Abbott or Gillard cut deal with Greens in lower house and senate to form government – middleclass greens are more liekly to bargain on green agenda. They support to scrap ABCC is just a trick to get ETU cash.

    CLAIM
    â–  The Greens party is opposed to vital new community infrastructure like much-needed new roads infrastructure on ideological grounds which will cause traffic bottle-necks and much reduced productivity; and

    REALITY
    Could greens block this? Liberal and Labor under investment in roads, ports and rail is already criminal neglect

    CLAIM
    ■ More generally, the Greens party’s policies of big taxes, free spending, hyper regulation and a contempt for industry will undermine growth and jobs for all of us and future regulations.

    REALITY
    Libs GST, migration cuts and Labors ETS, land tax (state govt), mining tax etc have already started killing small business. Both main parties are big business parties.
    The GREENS could not be more anti small business if they tried.

  7. Arther conan doyle

    F@#K small business.

  8. Reds Are Better In Bed

    Master Builders targeting the ‘thousands’ of disaffected liberals who may look to vote for a party that actually is liberal.

    Pity that lettuce nibbling, carrot munching size 8 doctors wives don’t read the herald sun.

  9. SAFS were are you?

    Master of Zero reckons its a trick to get ETU cash thats funny thats exactly what Suzzana the she-male reckons too

  10. greens care

    greens housing promise:

    a cave for every family unit

  11. greens care...no really

    Greens will turn every large business into a small business

  12. Jason

    I’ve been to Orodour-sur-Glane, and that photo sure looks like it. If so, it’s incredibly tasteless to trivialize the massacre that went on there in the name of politics bashing here.

    Also, the Master Builders Association might do well to read the Constitution to see what powers are assigned to the Commonwealth government, and what are retained by the states. At least 2 of those points fall wholly within the remit of state governments.

  13. Andrew,

    Analysis of the registered Group Voting Tickets indicates that the Greens will win a Senate Seat in Victoria. Based on the 2007 vote data the both the ALP and LNP should win 3 seats each. However due to a serious flaw in the way in which the AEC counts the Senate vote the Liberal party will deliver to the Greens 7,000 bonus votes giving the Greens a win in Victoria. Ironically this 7,000 vote bonus is derived from One Nation, Family First and the DLP.

    The flaw in the system is due to the segmentation and method used in calculating the Surplus Transfer value.

    THE AEC divides the Surplus equally by the number of ballot papers not the value of the vote.

    One Nation, Family First and the DLP top up the Liberal party 1.3 Million votes electing the Liberal/National Party’s third senate Candidate with approx 181,000 votes at full value (1.0) when mixed with the 1.4 million LNP votes reduced to 0.4 the votes are transferred out at 0.1 each even though the LNP vote is retains a value of 40% compared to the ON,FF and DLP vote.

    This has the effect of over inflating the LP/NOP ticket vote and delivers the Greens an additional 7000 vote bonus that under a fully proportional counting system would not be normally allocated.

    The parliament is aware of this flaw in the counting of the Senate vote but failed to act to correct it.

    So all being equal when compared to the 2007 vote the ALP will not elect 3 Senators as the Greens will benefit form the distortion in the system giving it an unfair advantage.

    More information http://democracy-works.blogspot.com

  14. Andrew,

    Analysis of the 2010 registered Group Voting Tickets indicates that the Greens will win a Senate Seat in Victoria. Based on the 2007 vote data, both the ALP and LNP should win 3 seats each. However due to a serious flaw in the way in which the AEC counts the Senate vote the Liberal party will deliver to the Greens 7,000 bonus votes giving the Greens a win in Victoria.

    Ironically this 7,000 vote bonus is derived from One Nation, Family First and the DLP.

    The flaw in the system is due to the segmentation and method used in calculating the Surplus Transfer value.

    THE AEC divides the Surplus equally by the number of ballot papers not the value of the vote.

    One Nation, Family First and the DLP top up the Liberal party 1.3 Million votes electing the Liberal/National Party’s third senate Candidate with approx 181,000 votes at full value (1.0) when mixed with the 1.4 million LNP votes reduced to 0.4 the votes are transferred out at 0.1 each even though the LNP vote is retains a value of 40% compared to the ON,FF and DLP vote.

    This has the effect of over inflating the LP/NOP ticket vote and delivers the Greens an additional 7000 vote bonus that under a fully proportional counting system would not be normally allocated.

    The parliament is aware of this flaw in the counting of the Senate vote but failed to act to correct it.

    So all being equal when compared to the 2007 vote the ALP will not elect 3 Senators as the Greens will benefit form the distortion in the system giving it an unfair advantage.

    More information http://democracy-works.blogspot.com

  15. Adrian Jackson

    Andrew, is the background behind Senator Bob the French village the Gestapo wiped out late in WW2 and later the French left the deserted village is a memorial?

  16. The method of segmentation and calculating the Surplus Transfer value inflates the Liberal ticket vote

    One Nation. DLP and Family First provide a bonus 7,000 votes to the Liberal Ticket vote which in turn will elect a Green Senator in Victoria.

    The Federal parliament and AEC is aware of the falw in the system but failed to correct it.

    http://democracy-works.blogspot.com

  17. Analysis of the Group Voting Tickets indicate that One Nation, DLP and Family First votes will elect a Green Senator in Victoria due ot a flaw in the way the AEC count the Senate vote.

    http://democracy-works.blogspot.com

  18. Analysis of the Group Voting Tickets, indicate that One Nation, DLP and Family First votes will elect a Green Senator in Victoria due ot a flaw in the way the AEC count the Senate vote.

    http://democracy-works.blogspot.com

  19. Analysis of the Group Voting Tickets indicate that One Nation, DLP and Family First votes will elect a Green Senator in Victoria due ot a flaw in the way the AEC count the Senate vote.

    More information:
    http://democracy-works.blogspot.com

  20. Analysis of the Group Voting Tickets indicate that One Nation, DLP and Family First votes will elect a Green Senator in Victoria due ot a flaw in the way the AEC count the Senate vote.

    http://democracy-works.blogspot.com

  21. Arther conan doyle

    Is that Craig Johnson or is it Johnston in the background?

  22. Melbcity

    Andrew,

    The Greens will be elected in Victoria to the Senate. Ironically on the back of One Nation, DLP and Family First votesb that inflate the Liberal Party Group Ticket vote.

    The system used to calculate the Surplus transfer value will deliver the Greens an additional bonus 7,000 votes that otherwise they would not get.

    This is a serious flaw in the system that should have been addressed by the parliamnat turned a blind eye to the facts.

    Analysis of the 2007 Federal Election by Antony Green has confirmed my analysis.

    http://democracy-works.blogspot.com

  23. Melbcity

    Andrew,

    The Greens will be elected in Victoria to the Senate. Ironically on the back of One Nation, DLP and Family First votes that inflate the Liberal Party Group Ticket vote.

    The system used to calculate the Surplus transfer value will deliver the Greens an additional bonus 7,000 votes that otherwise they would not get.

    This is a serious flaw in the system that should have been addressed by the parliamnat turned a blind eye to the facts.

    Analysis of the 2007 Federal Election by Antony Green has confirmed my analysis.

    http://democracy-works.blogspot.com

  24. Greens pitch for centre

    The greens know the limits of their cause.
    Their current ads back labors stimulus package and present voting green as just a greener form of voting labor.

    Bob brown has carefully hidden the anti labor bile of the average greens activist.

    Good trick and they will be rewarded for putting big space between greens brand and the barbar hate filled liberal loving faction.

    Has anyone heard a Victorian green mp attack the libs?

    They are addicted to liberal preferences.

  25. Melbcity

    A margin of error: ABC misleads the electorate

    The ABC breakfast program has demonstrated a lack of professionalism by publishing false and misleading information by claiming a contest between the ALP and the Greens.

    In 2007
    The Australian Labor Party in 2007 had a primary vote of 43,363 (49.51%)
    The Greens 19,967 (22.8%)
    The Liberal Party polled 20,577 (23.49%)

    After distribution of preferences The Greens only managed to out poll the Liberal Party by a margin of 591 (0.67%) following the distribution of Democrats preferences.

    The Contest is not between the ALP and the Greens 4% margin but between the Greens and the Liberal Party 0.67% margin.

    The Greens also had the so called “Donkey” Vote which represents 1.5% of the electorate

    The ABC did not interview the Liberal Party Candidate.

    AEC Full results

  26. Eyeon

    Hey Andy, any comment on the Oradour-sur-glane pic champ?

  27. libs no show in melb

    MelbCity needs reality check..

    http://results.aec.gov.au/13745/Website/HouseDivisionScrutinyForInfo-13745-228.htm

    See the two party result booth by booth….the libs have zero chance in Melbourne..

    the best they can do is give the greens a leg up…..

  28. Faust

    Arther C Doyle, no it’s not Craig Johnston in the background between Mr Brown and Mr Reynolds it’s
    **** **** but behind Mr Reynolds left shoulder you’ll see Father Devine and an Altar boy on their way to a Tony Abbott rally.

  29. Felix

    @Greens pitch for centre, check Hansard for the very regular attacks and criticisms of the libs from all Vic MPs. That aside, the libs are not in power, the labs are. It is for this reason that criticisms (reported in the media) of policy and legislation are directed at the labs: being the government, they are responsible for current policy and legislation. The libs, being in opposition, are not. Why would anyone criticise the libs for the actions of a labor government? Political debate is focused on actual events and occurences. Events and occurences at this point are driven by the the government – the labs. If and when the libs come to power, exactly the same rules will apply. Or do you expect other parties to ignore the party in power – the government, and concentrate their energies on the (though equally offensive) party that isn’t in power? What planet do you live on?

  30. No Geen policy

    The Greens do not want development in the outer suburbs. This automatically lifts the price of housing above the affordable level. In victoria the Greens in the Upper House also are against higher levels of development in inner melbourne. Again lifting the price of housing. Yet a policy does not exist on affordable housing or what type of developments do they support so people can find somewhere to live. Like Marie Antoinette the Greens want the people to eat cake!

  31. Josh

    @No Green policy, below are links to relevant Australian Greens policies. Among other things the principles of the Housing policy are:

    1. affordable housing is a human right.
    2. the housing needs of low income Australians should be met through the provision of a mix of affordable options, including community housing, public housing, shared equity with social housing providers and private rental housing.
    3. governments need to provide sufficient public and community housing to meet current need and projected demand.
    4. new urban developments should be environmentally sound, close to employment and public transport, and should facilitate community interaction.

    Etc…

    Among the Housing policy goals are that:

    * all Australians to have access to adequate, safe, secure, sustainable and affordable housing;
    * priority given in town planning to recreational, cultural and social amenities that promote healthy communities;
    * greater diversity in housing to meet the accessibility needs of changing demographics and disadvantaged groups.

    Some of the Housing policy measures are to:

    * develop a national housing plan and significantly increase funding to public and community housing;
    * provide increased financial assistance to people unable to provide for their own housing;
    * urgently fund sufficient public and community housing, to minimise waiting lists;
    * ensure public housing is accessible, affordable, secure, habitable and in locations that provide reasonable access to employment, health-care, public transport, schools and other social facilities.

    The Greens Sustainable Planning and Transport policy also states (among other things) that ‘future urban planning needs must minimise urban sprawl and promote growth of mixed-use urban villages in rural and regional areas’.

    Under this policy the Greens will:
    Develop national urban planning standards that provide for the location of high density housing and commercial buildings close to high capacity public transport, and the clustering of medium-density housing, community facilities and small-scale businesses around neighbourhood shopping centres.

    This policy also calls for public ownership of a national rail system that will service the population.

    But lets not let facts get in the way of pig-ignorant rants on a website that is well known for such garbage.

    http://greens.org.au/policies/care-for-people/housing
    http://greens.org.au/policies/sustainable-economy/sustainable-planning-and-transport

  32. Look at vic hansard

    The vic hansard is worth checking but go deeper. Once you go past the number of votes you see greens going on liberal witch hunts with political angles not policy ones.

    The vic greens are a very different beast to the national greens.

    Give them time…the rot is there already…small time manipulators…not much more…

    Aside from upper house Greens we also have green councillors to observe. There is a whole book to be written on their deals and dummies….

  33. Felix sans facts

    Felix – does not understand current green politics. The branding is quite simple and not shrill. The main ads push the point – stimulus and jobs yes. scrapping WorkChoices yeah great BUT I want more action on climate change.

    The Greens in these ads become a brand extension of Labor – ‘you know all the good stuff in Labor with ‘added action on the climate’.

    This is reducing politics to the cereal brand mentality that is modern society – younger people especially live in digital worlds without reference to newspapers and more linear notions of history or politics. In this fragment world – world heritage areas matter less than the general vibe of ‘greening’ things up a bit. ‘Greening up your vote’ is another lifestyle choice – rather than a deep green cause.

    Hats off to Bob Brown, who is a genuine conservationist, this is really embracing a new positioning for the greens – a greener version of labor.

    This is well research stuff but the research was done on greens voters, an entirely different breed to actual greens members.

    The trouble with the Victorian greens machine is too many recycled labor left types and the old hatred of the right wing…that hate cannot be restrained.

    It comes from ego driven greens councillors – puffed up on their recent ability to replace labor in place like Yarra and Port Philip.

    However, the Greens real place is as the new balance of power party and that means being smart enough to praise labor on the things that count. this is the only game for the Greens now and it is a very big nation changing role.

    The vic greens are still pissing their patch and playing winner takes all politics…condemning labor at every chance trying to grab votes by smearing labor and attacking left leaning MPs…that is a petty small council game…the national game is far more subtle….Brown outlined this brand bending approach a few weeks ago…’we are more liberal than the Liberals…more labor than labor and certainly more green than both’.

    Brown is lifting the Greens to a whole new level…. a new level where your base vote can double over night…

  34. Jason

    @Felix sans facts, there is no brand extension of labor – Greens policies couldn’t be more different at state or federal level. The Greens did support the stimulus package – that is a fact. Many people didn’t know this, and as a general rule, many don’t know what the Greens do in Parliament because of lack of media coverage. This ad went a little way to correcting labor smears that the Greens are irresponsible hooligans who will never have power who always and only disagree with and oppose (the oh so left and oh so practical) labor. That is the point of the ad, nothing more. It is by no means, and it doesn’t pretend to be, a complete explanation of Greens policies, which, as I said, do not resemble in the least the policies of the labs.
    Labor left is a contradiction in terms – if it ever existed, it doesn’t exist now. The Greens are the Greens and have no desire to emulate the labs. At federal and at state level this has been made clear many, many times.
    Who are the ‘left leaning’ MPs you speak of? And why do you think any MP touting bad policy as they often do (‘left leaning’ ones included), be immune from criticism? You do realise that labor votes as a party not as individuals don’t you? That is why the ‘left leaning’ labs, if they exist, sell their souls and don’t get a look in. That is why they find themselves peddling draconian police power or anti-worker legislation from time to time, all the while pretending to be committed ‘left leaners’.
    It is a labor myth that the Greens are out to get labor – the Greens don’t care about labor, just as it is a lab myth that the Greens are in bed with the libs, just as it is a lib myth that the Greens are a bunch of ferals.
    The only people that swallow the garbage you peddle are diehard labor faithfuls who are blinded by the spin they accept wholesale, and filled with a grandiose and warped sense of labor history.
    @No greens policy – actually check the policies. You have pretty much stated the opposite of what Greens policies state.

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